Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
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Re: Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
It has been a long and quiet off season coming out of Villa Park with the manager refusing to speak to the media since the final game of the season. This came after the club had been six points clear with four games to play in the league but had then managed to not win one of their final four games - picking up one solitary point - to see them pipped by a point by both Bournemouth and Arsenal on the final day. That 1-0 defeat at home to Derby County was probably the lowest moment but during the run in they were also knocked out of the Club World Cup at home to Inter Miami. As the final nail in the coffin the U23s - who enjoyed a phenomanal season winning the U23 div 1 at a canter - also fell off and lost a cup final to Bournemouth for the second season running.
This all meant that a season that had promised so much delivered just the U23 league title as the only achievement. On a personal level for the manager he also gained promotion with Wolves - who he had agreed to look after for the season - but they too missed an opportunity to go up with the title.
There was speculation that the gaffer was ready to walk away from football after this catastrophic end to the season and his media silence only added to that. But now finally he has sat down with the Fanzine to open up on that troubling period.
"Obviously it was not the end to the season we wanted. We were full of optimism going into those games but we couldn't buy a win during the run in. Neither the seniors or U23s could score a goal and we were just desperately trying to get over the line. It is a miracle we stayed as close as we were with our form but that is credit to the football we played in the earlier part of the season.
Obviously this lead to a huge period of self reflection for me and I won't say that I didn't consider walking away but that would have been defeatist. So I have spent some time licking my wounds and now we're back to give it another go.
We have to recognise what we have accomplished over the last few seasons. We won a title and have become only the third side to finish in the top three for four seasons in a row. We are hot on the heels of Everton as the most successful academy setup going and we're joint with Liverpool for a record 5th consecutive top 3 finish there.
If anyone thought winning back to back league titles would be easy then it was shown that it isn't. There were five clubs in that run in who could have won it and we had to play four of them in our final five games. It is a tough league and maybe the fact we had that run in made our league position a little false round that 18 game mark. We knew it would be tough from there and so it proved.
The boss was then asked to give his views and objectives on the coming season...
We want to be competing in that top group once again. We can't make winning the league the be all and end all as there are so many good clubs and managers in there that we would be setting ourselves up for failure. I would like to think we can have a good go at it though and equal that record for consecutive top three finishes. We were also nowhere near good enough in the cups last season and we haven't been at the races in the continental ones for years - it's time we were competing in the latter stages of that once again. This club should be challenging for honours at every turn
In the U23s we are looking to keep the squad competitive again. We have lost a few players who have become too good for the standard but we work hard at it and all other teams are in the same boat. We are confident we can do it again and we spend a lot of money keeping that side as good as it is.
So positive noises coming out of the manager's office. Hopefully he is now back and motivated - has learned from istakes - and the club are ready to give it a good go once again!
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Re: Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
As alluded to in his interview, the improvement of players lead to some just not being eligible for the standard having not made the senior grade and so it becomes time to move them on. Importantly for them and the success of the academy some of them have been able to stay in football and have secured lucrative deals with other clubs.
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A signing from Arsenal during season 22 as part of a swap deal that also brought Marin pongracic to the club, Karamoko Dembele was absolutely key to our U23 title success last season. He had 23 goal involvements with 17 scored and six assists meaning he lead the way on both metrics in the youth side last season. Unfortunately so many players became too good for the level and he was seen as one that could be moved on for a decent fee. And so it proved with Brentford coming in with a very good offer of £60m. A cult hero round Villa Park and i'm sure he will be given a rousing welcome when he returns with the Bees during the season
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Another player who will be returning to Villa Park with a Premiership club during the season, Harry Souttar was originally brought in from Brighton in a player plus cash deal in season 18. A mainstay of the U23 defence he has won two league titles and an U23 Cup with the club plus a couple of runner up league finishes. He was in and around the first team squad at the end of last season but could never quite make the grade. He has continued to work hard on his development and will no doubt have a good go at making that starting side at City.
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Only brought in from Leeds last season and he bagged himself 10 goals across his two clubs. But he is close to being both overrated and over age for the 23s and is not of first team standard so he moves on with the club receiving £23m in compensation
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A mainstay of the first team squads, Sanchez was an auction signing for just £21.6m back in season 17. He enjoyed some time as the Villa number one before being replaced by first Christensen and then Garofani. He has been on the bench since then and played just 8 minutes last year - not conceding during that spell. But youth graduation means he is down the pecking order now and that £20m that Villa receive was key to the window plans
With players moving out the club moved into the world market to look to replace them. This is not a cheap place to shop but it had to be done to comply with league regulations...
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With incumbent U23 GK sam Lewis now above the ratings for the league, Dan Atherton has been brought in from FC United of Manchester as the next stopper for the U23s. It will be an interesting integration for him as he will start his career as backup to Garofani with the first teams squad (after current backup Robert sanchez was moved on for £20m in another deal). Meanwhile Lewis will play as one of three overrated players in the U23s. When someone else rates up, the two will swap with Lewis providing first team cover and Atherton taking the gloves with the youth. A good bit of succession planning by the club here.
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Replacing Dembele was always going to be a big ask and that role has fallen to Charlie Patino who is the most expensive of these signings coming in for £47m from Deportivo la Coruna. A very solid AM but nowhere near as good a finisher as the outgoing Dembele the youngster knows he has a job to do to replace the popular superstar. He has already been working very hard on his shooting and has upped the level there and the club will be hoping he can help to replace some of those goals in the side this season
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With Eddie Nketiah and Rory Wilson both on the way to being overqualified for the U23s re-enforcements up front were needed and they arrive in the form of Javaun Splatt who comes in from Whitstable town. Of a standard of shooting with the rest of the FW line and as a marginally better distributer of the football, this looks to be a good piece of business for the club as they maintain a competitive forward line.
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The pick of the pre season additions is Rodrigo Fortes who comes in having been discovered in Portugal for a fee of £45m. The scouts originally and, more recently, the club coaches have been really impressed with this lad's attitude and professionalism in training. It is thought that his tackling is already showing signs of improvement and also rumours that he may be named as captain of the U23s at just 17 years of age. If so the confidence that will give him should help make him a great replacement for Souttar and one for the future!
A good initial spell of business for the club keeping the youths within the regulations and competitive. It is always sad to see academy prospects leave but being able to get good fees for them is important. Ultimately, with £152m incoming and then £174m out, it has cost the club £22m to stay within those regs but that is possibly a small price to pay to stay competitive and hopefully be challenging for U23 honours once again.
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Re: Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
The next piece of business for the club was to see a top first team midfielder leave!
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A £145m signing from Liverpool on 2021 Svante Ingelsson turned out to be a key member of the season 22 league winning side and the one that went so close last year. However, in the last season he played fewer minutes than all but Jumeau in the first team midfield and, whilst it was thought that this latter player would be the one to move on, the fee the club could command for Ingelsson proved much greater. It is also thought that his contribution of just 7 key tackles, 3 goals and 1 assist was not seen as good enough for an all round midfielder and so, when Leicester came in, the offer was too good to turn down. Svante went for £140m cash up front with Danny Ings being sold and the funds going to Villa to take the total income to be £166.5m. It slipped under the radar but Cristiano Ronaldo moved the other way as part of the deal.
So a £21.5m profit for Villa on a player that had two third placed finishes and a Title win during his time at the club. a very successful bit of business. We have also sold on to a club that won't be in our league next year at least - so it may be a while before he comes back to haunt us. A good deal all round.
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Re: Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
Despite the early ins and outs, the club found ourselves still struggling to comply with numbers both in terms of ratings and the minimum squad size that these challenges would bring. And so a deal was struck with newly promoted Notts Forest that seems mutually beneficial. The Forest U23s needed some top quality whilst we needed squad depth and players to develop. And so a four for three deal was struck with us enhancing numbers. First the outgoings...
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A signing in the same deal that brought Eddie Nketiah over from Leeds last season, Jarred was a key part of the defence clocking up 20 key tackles and 17 key passes. He was closing in on the rating up but still had room so not a necessary sale but the management thought they would use him to make it happen - especially as they were keen to keep hold of Wilson and Boulegcha.
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Three players we were gutted to see go but we had four coming the other way!
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With these changes a youth side we were very worried about being compliant now looks comfortable and ready to go for the season.
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The pre season auction is the most exciting time of year for the club and this one was no exception. With the manager expected to want to strengthen the defence, speculation was over who they would go for and what they would have to pay.
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We knew Liverpool were interested as well and so we took the opportunity to enter negotiations with them where we were able to come to terms on a major four for four swap. Frimpong was the first key part of that and we'll do every part of the deal in the swapped players for comparison.
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Whilst this was an upgrade initially on Casas he subsequently moved on again - and that move got us an even better upgrade with the return of a familiar face! But more on that later.
So overall, as 4v4 deals go, we feel we got the better of this. A shame to lose the players we did with Frimpong and the youth academy products but we feel we have benefitted overall three of the four players we got back upgrades and one being an intriguing prospect as a defender or defensive midfielder. A deal that we complete with a heavy heart but for the good of the squad.
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This one feels like almost an interim post on the goings on at Villa Park as all the players mentioned here have been moved on without playing a game for the club! But they are needed to keep track of what was going on in a whirlwind period.
First up was an odd deal with Arsenal:
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But meanwhile the scouts were out doing their job and they located an extra defensive option in...
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The scouts were tasked with looking for a new defender with better tackling ability than what we had and they came up with Mohamed Simakan who was playing for Al-Nassr in the pro league. It is thought the manager recognised the potential in him and so was prepared to pay the release clause he had with the Saudi club. But, that turned out just to be a tactic of spending money to accumulate. The player didn't remain at Villa very long...
But, again, before we get to that there was more great news as an academy prospect signed a new contract.
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I've alluded to some bigger dealings incoming. Well, a 5v5 with the Gunenrs is about as big as it gets! Again we'll look at the elements as they break down.
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So all in all mega deal and benefits for both sides. But we will be delighted to see four former superstars return to the club - players we never wanted to let go. Overall business that has improved our midfield - and for those outgoing - a clear sign that the door is always open for a return down the line!
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The squad was almost ready but one final piece of the puzzle was needed - that one extra key defender. And so we were into the market once again. It took a lot to get this one done with two players outgoing.
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With that, the final deals have been done for this off season. For now at least.
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Re: Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
Senior Goalkeepers
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Overall, in the seniors, we feel we have improved defence and midfield with an only slightly weakened attack so, having finished third last time we're in a strong position to go better this time. The youths were always going to be weaker but the defence will be strengthened by the start with the attack like for like. It is only the midfield that gives us a worry here but hopefully we will be competitive with other teams. A positive off season and the side is ready to go!
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Re: Villa Fanzine: Heroes and Villains
As previously announced here, it looked very much like Villa's pre season activity was done. However, niggling away in the background there was always that desire for an extra midfielder and a long standing interest existed in Chelsea midfielder Curtis Jones. That looked a non-starter when Villa manager Nock took over as caretaker at the start of the off season but was re-kindled when James Bucknall took the reigns at Stamford Bridge. Negotiations were at a semi advanced stage when Buckers mysteriously vanished and it looked for a long time that any deal was dead as Villa pursued other avenues. But, as soon as Arsenal manager Jamal Claxton took on a caretaker role at the Blues, the talks were re-ignited. However, it wasn't to be as Matt Collison at Bournemouth - a long time nemesis of our manager in the transfer market swooped in with a great offer and blew Villa out of the market.
But our gaffer is not to be outdone and he was straight onto alternatives. And the most similar player to Jones that Nock and his team could identify was Enzo Fernandez - recently signed by Arsenal who were of course managed by Jamma. This gave the club a huge advantage as, having just been in negotiations, both parties new what would likely be required and so talks were under way. It was known that Arsenal were keen to add another defensive option and so a lot of things were examined to try and find the right deal for both clubs. After a few days of trying, things were finally thrashed out.
Firstly the outgoings...
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Julian Alvarez - the player that nearly brought the deal crashing down. Signed from The Gunners last season he was only used as a bit part player with 26 of his 28 appearances coming off the bench. This probably contributed to the fact he never scored a goal for the club or indeed made an assist as he played less than a thousand minutes. But he possesses undoubted quality and it is understood that he was a player the manager did not want to let go.
Rico Lewis - A Christmas signing for Villa U23s back in season 16, Lewis grew into a star for the academy before moving on to Brentford in season 20 as part of the deal that brought Ismael Boulegcha to the academy. He was then re-signed last season in part of the deal that took Christansen to the Bees. A top quality defender in terms of distribution and tackling he was nearling the end of his U23 eligibility at Villa and there were doubts he would ever be able to step up with other players jumping ahead of him in the coaches focus. It is thought Arsenal will see him as a top development priority early and he is moving straight to their seniors - we wish him well.
Finley Monroe - another free Christmas signing he has been at the club since season 20 and has barely kicked a football. He has been there for numbers and has done a great job at maintaining squad size. In the final year of his contract he was gone next season anyway so it's no big deal.
So plenty out but what are we getting?
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Enzo Fernandez - The Argentinian is the main reason this deal has happened. Villa were so keen to build a midfield that could compete with Bournemouth and Liverpool that Jones and then Fernandez were made high priority. His addition gives Villa one of the best midfields in FMFA with three rated at 24 and one not far off. Fernandez also adds the nice balance as a DM when needs be with him and Gerson DM options complimented by Leemans and Guimaraes as potential AMs. The balance of that midfield now looks very good indeed and has become a real area of strength
Nasariy Rusyn - pretty much a make weight in the deal, the Ukranian is probably going to feature even less than Alvarez did last season - if he stays. His poor distribution is vieewed as a huge negative by the coaching team and he's not much of a finisher either. Don't expect him to have a long career at Villa Park
Emerson - an interesting one this one as he joins to replace the gap left by Lewis in the U23s. He will be a senior player and leader in that group. Because of his age and ability he may be one for the dressing room more than the pitch but hopefully his presence will allow the other six to develop around him.
Tommy O'Reilly - only just gone to Arsenal and now he's back. Hs role will continue to be very much a bit part as he signs on a short term deal until the end of the season.
All in all, we have paid out a lot in this one but the key was to get that top midfielder. That has been achieved and you always have to overpay a bit for players of that quality. Hopefully the centre of that park can help us take that next step once again as we push for trophies next season...